Thursday, April 19, 2012

Cheater?

Okay so, Silver Commander (A friend of mine) and I were playing a 2v2 on the map "Rigs" against these two randoms, one with 100 hours, one with no profile setup, which we had just played in an earlier game and got owned. So, we were playing aeon just as I thought was best, suddenly... loads of battleships popped out of a player called "Dragon" at 8 minutes. We got battleshipped to death. So after watching the replay, we firstly descovered how "Dragon" (Green UEF player at top right corner) got the Gauss Cannon direct-fire turret upgrade on his mass extractors by 35 seconds! Secondly, we also discovered how he got double-barel upgrade on his cruisers with only 2 labs by about 3.45 minutes after the turret upgrade. Furthermore, he got mass conversion aswell as battleships by 7.50 minutes, just with 3 research labs, after the mass upgrade AND the barrel upgrade.
So we went and did a test in the game, and just to find out its impossible to get what he researched in such short time, with only 3 research stations. Unfortunetly I didn't keep his steam profile open/saved so there's nothing that I can do. I also just did a quick look at "modern" in the bottom right corner, he got the ACU energy upgrade by 1.45 without ANY research labs, I did a test to find out this is also impossible.
Please post your opinions and tell me if you think its somehow possible?
The link to download the replay is here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O3T1XPQ6
Thanks.|||REPLAY: 00:00:19 Dragon researched Training I, Affects: All Structures.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:20 Dragon researched Training II, Affects: All Structures.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:24 Dragon researched Training III, Affects: All Structures.
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INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:25 Dragon researched Training IV, Affects: All Structures.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:25 Dragon researched Training V, Affects: All Structures.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:26 Dragon researched Build Cost, Affects: All Structures.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:27 Dragon researched Build Time, Affects: All Structures.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:27 Dragon researched Regeneration, Affects: All Structures.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:28 Dragon researched Energy Income, Affects: Energy Generator
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:28 Dragon researched Research Income, Affects: Research Station
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:29 Dragon researched Mass Income, Affects: Mass Extractor
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:29 Dragon researched Health, Affects: All Structures. Does not affect Experimentals.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:30 Dragon researched Radar, Affects: All Structures. Does not affect Experimentals.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:31 Dragon researched Fortified Artillery, Built By: Engineer or ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:31 Dragon researched Artillery Weapon Range, Affects: Fortified Artillery, Long Range Artillery
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:32 Dragon researched Harden Artillery, Affects: Fortified Artillery
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:00:32 Dragon researched Gauss Cannon, Affects: Mass Extractor, Research Station
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:01 Dragon researched Training I, Affects: All Naval units.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:02 Dragon researched Training II, Affects: All Naval units.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:03 Dragon researched Training III, Affects: All Naval units.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:04 Dragon researched Training IV, Affects: All Naval units.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:04 Dragon researched Training V, Affects: All Naval units.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:05 Dragon researched Build Cost, Affects: All Naval units. Does not affect Experimentals.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:05 Dragon researched Health, Affects: All Naval units. Does not affect Experimentals.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:06 Dragon researched Regeneration, Affects: All Naval units. Does not affect Experimentals.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:07 Dragon researched Stacked Gauss Cannon, Affects: Cruiser, Battleship
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:07 Dragon researched Health II, Affects: All Naval units. Does not affect Experimentals.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:15 Dragon researched Vision, Affects: All Naval units. Does not affect Experimentals.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:16 Dragon researched Radar, Affects: All Naval units. Does not affect Experimentals.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:18 Dragon researched Sonar, Affects: All Naval units. Does not affect Experimentals.
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:40 Dragon researched Training I, Affects: ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:41 Dragon researched Training II, Affects: ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:41 Dragon researched Training III, Affects: ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:42 Dragon researched Training IV, Affects: ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:42 Dragon researched Training V, Affects: ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:43 Dragon researched Health, Affects: ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:43 Dragon researched Damage, Affects: ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:44 Dragon researched Weapon Range, Affects: ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:44 Dragon researched Build Cost, Affects: ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:46 Dragon researched Energy Income, Affects: ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:01:49 Dragon researched Regeneration, Affects: ACU
INFO: **REPLAY: 00:05:02 Dragon researched Poseidon, Built By: Naval Factory
INFO: **REPLAY: 01:06:56 Dragon researched Mass Convertor, Built By: Engineer or ACU|||Yup, he is the cheater also known as Pie and...and...damn. Oh well, even though I've fought him about 10 times, he just changes his name alot. He is a known cheater.|||First time I've seen the cheater in a 2v2 or non-ranked game.|||Thanks for all your replies, btw I'm wondering how this is actually possible without desync messages coming up :s Something GPG should fix?|||In the last 78 minutes you doubled your post count. I order you to double it every subsequent 78 minutes until it no longer amuses me.|||Polarbear|||I can't even find the UI 'sploit from 1.23.|||You can't even find me.
:3|||Hey, I found your mother. >_>|||Balkhan|||-The-Baron-|||redmoth|||-The-Baron-|||btw i remember "polarbear" nickname being mentioned in "ranked cheater" threads
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=47698&p=830148&hilit=polarbear#p830148|||And the plot thickens!
Seriously though, it COULD be a coincedence... we cant really check his steam ID or anything..|||So they never fixed the exploit? Wow...|||RPhilMan1|||Nah I've played Polarbear before, used aeon weeb spam, but competently enough to assume he doesn't cheat (Since cheaters invariably suck at the game when palying fair)|||Manta|||Nephylim|||Polarbear|||Nephylim|||If anyone has a repro for how this cheat works, PM me. This is the first I have heard of any new research point exploit.|||sorian

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